In article >,
n.com () writes:
Man, I was amused reading your article. You really showed us, haven't you?
Some things: why on Earth should Hungarians have a 'complex of inferiority' in
historical sense to Romanians? Anyway, have you ever read history books
printed and sold outside of Romania? Do you know the main reason of that
idiotic Hungarian-Romanian contrary? You must know something about the
Hun-Hungarian relationship; if you have time, please consult some historian,
for they might be interested...
About your pride: early Hungarians invaded the Carpatian Basin some thousand
years ago, and settled a Christian kingdom. Romania's first king is from the
19th century. And about complex: Romania's and Slovakia's anti-minority-policy
not only hurts native Hungarians (remember: 1000 years), but Germans, Gypsies,
etc.
I find really disgusting your nationalist attitude toward Gypsies, Hungarians,
and others who are not Romanians. Refer to the Netiquette, please.
I'm waitinig for your further opinion.
Andras Donaszi
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> There are some Huns (Hungarians) and other barbarians who has a complex of
> inferiority
> (mainly in a historical sense).
> These barbarians are trying desperately to show a connection between
> Romanians and
> Rom ( Gypsy). For example the Hungarians ( Huns) insist that Gypsy should
> be called
> and spelled in a manner attracting confusion, that is:
> Romanies,Romani,Roma,etc.
> Whatever spelling approach they take Romanians still remain Romans,
> Gypsies remain
> Gypsies and Hungarians remain Huns.
> We should remained the barbarians that the Gypsies were enslaved in
> Romania and sold
> abroad to the Huns and others where they intermixed with the native
> papulation, creating
> a mixed race ( in the case of Hungary, a race of Huno-Gypsies).
> In Romania the opposite happened. The Romanians were punished by
> enslavement if
> marry a Gypsy.
> Take a load of this from a Gypsy writer (David Crowe):
>
> "In the long course of the Gypsy experience in Eastern Europe, none has
> been worse than that in Romania.Within several centuries after Gypsies
> entered the medieval provinces of Wallachia and Moldavia, they began to be
> enslaved, a condition that lasted until the mid nineteenth century.
> Although slavery was not a condition peculiar to Gypsies or the Balkans at
> the time, the deep-seated, dehumanizing prejudice that has characterized
> the historic Romanian relationship with Gypsies produced a socioeconomic
> caste system that resulted in the "social death" of Gypsies as Romanian
> slaves"
>
> Ooo Baby Make my day.
>
> Some countries spell Romania with an "u" and some with an "a".
> Whatever the spelling is the Romanians are still descendants of the Romans
> not Huns
> or other barbarians.
> Romanians spelled their name as Rumans for the period of time when
> Slavonic was used
> as the language of the Church. Rumans being the correct spelling in
> Slavonic for Romans.
> Latter on when Slavonic was replaced by Latin the Romanians changed the
> "u" for "o" which
> is very appropriate for a LATIN.
>
> TAKE A LOAD OF SOME GOOD STAFF( For the Huns and other barbarians to
> learn):
>
>
> THE IMPERIAL ROMANS
>
> (WALACHIANS)
>
>
> Note: In the following article I used Romanians (Vlachs ) = ROMANS. The "
> = " sign should be interpreted as: direct descendants of the Romans,
> people connected culturaly, racialy to the Romans,
> (as it is suggested by the chronicles).
>
> The Romanians were known in the past as:
>
> VALACHUS (By the Catholic West)
> FLACI (By catholic West)
> IFLAK (By the Turks)
> VLASI & VOLOH (By the Slavs)
> OLAH &BLACH (By the Hungarians)
> OLAHOK (By the Hungarians)
> OLASZOK (The Hungarian name for the Italians)
> WALACH (By the Germans)
> WALSCHER (The German name for the Italians)
> BLACHOS & VLACHOS (By the Greeks)
> BLOCH (By the Saxons in Transilvania)
> WOLOSZY (By the Polish)
> WLOCHI (The Polish name for the Italians)
>
> In old German WALH = ROMAN
> In Gothic VOLK = ARMED PEOPLE
> In old slavonic VLAST = POWER(considered of Gothic origin)
> In old slavonic VLAST = GIGANTE/GOD
>
>
> Romanians always called themselves ROMANS & RUMANS.Their neighbors called
> them Vlachs,Vlasi,Olahs,etc.
>
>
> CHRONICLES DESCRIBING THE ROMANIANS (VALACHIANS):
>
>
> CONSTANTINE FLAVIUS PORPHYROGENITUS (BYZANTINE EMPEROR 913-959)
>>From "De administrando imperio".Constantine's surname, PORPHYROGENITUS
> (that is, born in the Purple Chamber of the Imperial Palace in
> CONSTANTINOPLE).
>
>
> "The emperor Diocletian was much enamored of the country of Dalmatia, and
> he brought folk with their families from ROME and settled them in this
> same country of Dalmatia, and they were called ROMANI (VLACHS) from their
> having been removed from ROME, and this title attaches to them until this
> day..."
>
> "The territory possessed by the ROMANI (VLACHS) used to extend as far as
> the river Danube"
> (Constantine shows that the ROMANS (Latins, NOT Greek Romans or
> Byzantines) or Vlachs are the original Romans.
>
>
> "The country of the ZACHLUMI was previously possessed by the ROMANS, I
> mean, by those ROMANI (VLACHS) whom Diocletian the emperor translated from
> ROME"
> (Constantine is talking about the Imperial Romans,who are going to be
> known under the name of VLACHS).
>
>
> "These same CROATS arrived to claim the protection of the emperor of the
> Romans Heraclius before the SERBS claimed the protection of the same
> emperor Heraclius, at that time when the Avars had fought and expelled
> from those parts the ROMANI (VLACHS) whom the emperor Diocletian had
> brought from Rome and settled there, and who were therefore called ROMANI
> (VLACHS) from their having been translated from ROME to those
> countries..."
>
>
> "The country of Diocleia was also previously possessed by the ROMANI
> (VLACHS) whom the emperor Diocletian translated from ROME"
>
>
> "And sice what is now Serbia and Pagania and the so-called Kanalites were
> under the dominion of the emperor of the Romans, and since these countries
> had been made desolate by the AVARS (for they had expelled from those
> parts the ROMANI (VLACHS) who now live in Dalmatia and Dyrrachium)"
>
>
> "The country in which the PAGANI now dwell was also previously possessed
> by the ROMANI(VLACHS) whom the emperor Diocletian translated from ROME and
> settled in Dalmatia".
>
>
> "At that time when the Avars had fought and expelled from those parts the
> ROMANI(VLACHS) whom the emperor Diocletian had brought from ROME and
> settled there,and who therefore called ROMANI from their having been
> translated from ROME to those countries"
>
>
> SUMMARY: In his description of the Greek Roman Empire,we can definitely
> identify two people,the Imperial Romans(VLACHS-those Romans who initiated
> the empire),called by Constntine,ROMANI, and the Greek
> Romans(BYZANTINES-those Romans who adopted GREEK as the language of the
> State and Church).
>
>
> Giulio Ruggiero, Abbot ( in a report addressed to Pope PIUS 5, 1568).
>
> "..., Sono questi Vallachi per antica origine Italiani, per esser colonia
> de Romani, condotta da Flacco, la quale con vocabolo corrotto vogliono
> molti che siano detti Vallachi"
>
>
> Summary: ROMANIANS (VLACHS) = ROMANS
>
>
> Pierre Lescalopier, French lowyer (1574).After visiting Romanian
> Principalities.
>
>
> "Tout ce pays ( la Walacchie) et Moldauie et la plus part de Transiluanie
> a este peuple des colonies romaines du temps de Traian l'empereur; le
> capitaine se nommoit Flaccus qui a donne ce nom nouueau au pays de Flacchi
> et par glissement de langue Wlacchie. Ceux du pays se disent vrays
> successeurs des Romains et nomment leur parler romanechte c'est a dire
> romain; la plus part de leurs parolles sont demies italiennes et demies
> latines meslees de grec et de baragouin. Ilz ont en fort grande horreur le
> pape et l'Eglise romaine et honorent comme Dieu leurs vaiuodatz"
>
>
> Summary: ROMANIANS (VLACHS) = ROMANS.
>
>
> Giovani Francesco Commendone (1523-1584), Prist. Presents a short
> description to Pope Grigore 13, about the origins of the Vlachs.
>
>
> "Valachia, id est Italia, vocatur veloc enim Italum Sarmathae siscunt, nam
> Valochi non modo disciplinae romanae mores et leges ceras hactenus
> retinent, sed ipsa quoque latinae linguae vocabula plurima suo idiomate,
> quod illiricum est, admiserunt..."
>
>
> Summary: ROMANIANS (VLACHS) = ROMANS.
>
>
> Antonio Possevino (1533-1611), Episcope. In his mission to Transylvania
> writes a report to Pope Grigore 13.
>
>
> "Principi di Moldavia et Vallachia, poiche sono discesi da ROMANI, dei
> quali ancora ritengono il nome, et, come si spera, anco l'amore..."
>
>
> Summary: ROMANIANS (VLACHS) = ROMANS.
>
>
> Ferrante Capeci (1549-1589), Napolitan Prist.
>
>
> "E la Transilvania habitata da tre sorti di persone, et tutti hanno lingue
> distint. Valachi, I quali sono I piu antichi habitatori e descendono da
> italiani e longobardi. Onde hanno lingua simile all'italiana moderna, tal
> che fra pochi mesi si potrebbe bene imparar la loro lingua; come essi anco
> facilmente imparano l'italiano. Anzi essi si chiamano romaneschi..."
>
>
>
> Summary: ROMANIANS (VLACHS) = ROMANS.
>
>
> POPE CLEMENT 6 (1342-1352).
>
>
> "Olachi Romani,commorantes in partibus Ungariae,Transilvanis,Ultralpinis
> et Sirmus"
> (In Hungary,Transilvania,Muntenia and Sirmia live the Roman-Vlachs)
>
> or
>
> "Tam nobilibus quam popularibus Olachis Romanis"
>
>
> Summary: ROMANIANS (VLACHS) = ROMANS.
>
>
> POPE PIUS II (1458-1464) (Commentarium rerum memorabilium).
>
>
> "VALACHI lingua utuntur Italica, verum imperfecta, et admodum corrupta;
> sunt qui legiones Romanas eo missas olim censeant adversus Dacos, qui eas
> terras incolebant; legionibus Flaccum quendam praefuisse, a que Flacci
> primum,deinde Valachi, mutatis litteris, sint appellati;quorum posteri (ut
> ante relatum est) "
>
>
> Summary: (The Vlachs are a people of Roman origin, born from an antic
> Roman Imperial colony, speaking a language close to Latin or Italian).
>
>
>
> Nicolaus Machinensis, episcop of Modrussa ( DALMATIA).
>
>
> "Inferiora vero quaecumque Ister Boristenesque intercipt usque ad Ponti
> ripas Valacchi obtinent,
> romani quondam vel exules vel milites, a duce Flacco ita cognominati, nunc
> immutatione litterae Vlacchi appellati: quo vocabulo non modo ea gens sed
> omnes quoque finitimae nationes hodie Italos nominant. Valacchi originis
> suae illud praecipuum prae se ferunt argumentum quod, quamvis Mysorum
> lingua quae illyrica est omnes utantur, vernaculo tamen sermone, hoc est
> latino haud prorsus obsoleto ab incunabulis loquuntur; et cum ignotis
> congressi, dum linguae explorant comertium, an ROMANAE loqui norint
> interrogant".
>
>
> Summary:ROMANIANS (VLACHS) = ROMANS.
>
>
> Janus Pannonius.Hungarian Humanist, Poet (1434-1472).
>
>
> "Sarmatici montes et vos septemplici Istri
> Caerulea Euxinio cornua mixta Mari,
> Ac tu Romanis olim possessa colonis
> Sed iam corrupto, barbara rerra, sono
> Quid dominum lentis longe retinetis in armis?"
>
>
> Summary: ROMANIANS (VLACHS) = ROMANS.
>
>
> Alessandro Cortesi. Poet, (1469-1491)
>
>
> "An procul expusos Nomadas, serasque luentes
> Pastores rupto Siculos pro foedere poenas?
> Trinacriae Siculos quondam, Schythiaeque colonos,
> Fortia magnanimos praebentes colla Valachos,
> Qui referunt prisca Roamanam ab origine gentem?"
>
>
> Summary: (ROMANIANS/VLACHS = ROMANS).
>
>
> POPE Innocent III (in a latter from 1203).
>
>
> "Therefore, we, who have been appointed by the will of GOD and
> Father,unworthy as we are, as vicars and successors of the Apostolic See,
> to prove by the force of facts our fatherly love for the Church of the
> Bulgarians and ROMANIANS (VLACHS),who are said to be THE DESCENDENTS OF
> THE ROMANS,by their flesh and blood"
>
>
> POPE Innocent III (in a letter addressed to IONITA, lord of the Bulgarians
> and Romanians,from 1203)
>
>
> "Thus, taking this into account, we have decided since long, through our
> envoy or our letters, that we should pay a visit to your lordship, so
> that,realizing your faith to the Roman Church,Your Mother, we might then
> send to you,WHO SAY THAT YOU ARE A DESCENDENT OF THE NOBLE KIN OF THE
> ROMANS...As, he (God the Father) will help you to be a ROMAN in this
> wordily life and for your Eternal Salvation by your own striving, the same
> as you are BY YOUR DESCENT; and he shall help the people of your country,
> which say that they are the ROMANS, blood and flesh".
>
> Enea Silvio Piccolomini, "Cosmography" 1501.
>
>
> "Transilvania...,it is inhabited by three peoples: the Saxons, the
> Szecklers and the ROMANIANS.
> The Saxons had come from Saxony,and are strong men,used to the
> struggle...The Szecklers are considered the most ancient Hungarians...,The
> ROMANIANS are of Italian stock..., A colony of the ROMANS was settled
> there (Dacia) to keep a tight rein over Dacians under the leadership of a
> certain Flaccus, after whose name the coutry was called Flacohia and its
> inhabitants were called VLACHS instead of Flacci. This people speaks now a
> ROMAN idiom, although partly changed,and hardly understood by an Italian".
>
>
> Francesco della Valle,1532,(Secretary of Aloisio Gritti,a natural son to
> Doge Andrea Gritti).
>
>
> "The Romanians(Vlachs) are of Italian stock, and according to them, they
> are the descendants of the ANCIENT ROMANS".
>
>
> The anonymous notary of King Bela, "Gesta Hungarorum".
>
>
> "For, after king Attila's death,the ROMANS called the soil of Panonia a
> graze field as,their herds used to graze in the country of Panonia.And
> they were right in calling the Panonian soil the grazing fields of the
> ROMANS, as even nowadays, the ROMANIANS(Vlachs) feed their sheep on the
> Hungarian estates".
>
>
> Summary: ROMANIANS (VLACHS) = ROMANS.
>
>
> IOAN KINNAMOS (Imperial secretary under two Byzantine emperors, Manuel I &
> Andronic)
>
>
> "It is said about the Vlachs that they are the old descendents of those
> from Italy".
>
>
> Summary: ROMANIANS (VLACHS) = ROMANS.
>
>
> Poggio Bracciolini (1380-1459),"Disceptationes convivales", Florentine
> Humanist.
>
>
> "Apud superiores Sarmatas colonia est ab Traiano ut aiunt derelicta, quae
> nunc etiam inter tantam barbariem multa retinet latina vocabula, ab
> Italis, qui eo profecti sunt, notata.
> Oculum dicunt, digitum, manum,panem,multaque alia quibus apparet ab
> Latinis, qui coloni ibidem relicti fuerunt, manasse eamque coloniam fuisse
> latino sermoneusam".
>
> Summary: ROMANIANS (VLACHS) = ROMANS.
>
>
> Flavio Biondo. Humanist, (1392-1463).
>
>
> "Et qui e rgione Danubio item adiacent Ripenses Daci, sive
> Valachi,originem, quam ad decus prae se ferunt praedicantque ROMANAM,
> loquela ostendunt, quos catholice christianos ROMAN quotannis et
> Apostolorum limina invisentes, aliquando gavisi sumus ita loquentes
> audiri, ut, quae vulgari communique gentis suae more dicunt, rusticam male
> grammaticam redoleant latinitatem"
>
>
> Summary: ROMANIANS (VLACHS) = ROMANS.
>
>
> NICOLAUS MACHINENSIS. Episcop of Dalmatia under Pope Pius II.
>
>
> "Inferiora vero quaecumque Ister Boristenesque intercipt usque ad Ponti
> ripas Valacchi obtinent, romani quondam vel exules vel milites, a duce
> Flacco ita cognominati, nunc immutatione litterae Vlacchi appellati: quo
> vocabulo non modo ea gens sed omnes quopue fimitimae nationes hodie Italos
> nominant".
>
>
> Summary: ROMANIANS (VLACHS) = ROMANS.
>
>
> Janus Pannonicus (1434-1472), The most important Hungarian Humanist.
>
>
> "Sarmatici montes et vos septemplicis Istri
> Caerulea Euxinio cornua mixta Mari,
> Ac tu Romanis olim possessa colonis
> Sed iam corrupto, barbara terra, sono
> Quid domimum lentis longe retinetis in armis?".
>
>
> Summary: ROMANIANS (VLACHS) = ROMANS.
>
>
> Filippo Buonaccorsi Callimaco (1438-1496), Italian Political Annalist.
>
>
> "Sed utcunque immensus uel infinitus potios, eadem ubuque lingua et
> praeter Romanorum coloniam Valachiam gentes omnes eadem primordia
> profitentes".
>
> "Fama nouae coloniae aliquamdiu motus Scuthios compescuit.Deinde non solum
> propulsantibus, sed egregie etiam inferentibus bellum Romanis datae
> acceptaeque sunt utrinque paene innumerabiles clades, cum pleraque a
> caesaribus supplementa et auxilia suis mitterentur".
>
>
> Summary: ROMANIANS (VLACHS) = ROMANS.
>
>
> Jan Dlugosz (1415-1480),Polish Chronicler.
>
>
> "(1359) Stephano Moldaviae Voievodae, apud Valachos mortuo, quorum maiores
> et aboriginarii de Italiae Regno pulsi ( genus et natio Volscorum esse
> fuisseque creduntur) veteribus Dominis et colonis Ruthenis, primum sudole,
> deinde abundante in dies multitudine... ".
>
>
> Summary: ROMANIANS (VLACHS) = ROMANS.
>
>
> Raffaelo Maffei Volterano (1506),Italian Humanist.
>
>
> "Eo quod Romanos, ut dixi, accepere colonos, pleraque uocabula loquuntur
> lingua semijtalica,argumento est nomen Valachiam enim appellant, quod
> Valach Italicum lingua ipsorum dicatur".
>
>
> Summary: ROMANIANS (VLACHS) = ROMANS.
>
>
> Marcantonio Coccio (1436- 1506), Italian Historian.
>
>
> "Valachi italicum genus hominum: horum terram Daci olim tenuerunt: nunc
> Teutones, Siculi et Valachi tenent... Valachorum nobilissimi qui
> agriculturam et qui pecuariam exercent".
>
>
> Summary: ROMANIANS (VLACHS) = ROMANS.
>
>
> Felix Petancici (1445-1517), Humanist from Ragusa (Dalmatia).
>
>
> "Haec est provincia Dacia dicta apud veteres, Romanorum colonia(unde eius
> aborigines hac etiam nostra tempestate) passim latino utuntur colloquio".
>
>
> Summary: Romanians (Vlachs) = Romans.
>
>
> Joachim Vadian (1484-1551), Swiss Humanist.
>
>
> "Supra Cataractas Danubius, infra vero Ister dicitur, sunt autem hae
> maximae, intre montes Dacorum Straboni, eos hodie Iazigibus et
> Transiluanis subiunctos, Walachos nominant, vocabulo Boemis Sarmatisque
> uernaculo, quod inde natum uidetur, namque ‘ty Vlasschi' Italos nominant
> quos ibi consedisse ex Pannonicis Sarmaticisque Romanorum bellis
> constant,cum ne hodie quidem eorum lingua ab Italica multum sit absona".
>
>
> Summary:ROMANIANS (VLACHS) = ROMANS.
>
>
> Stephan Taurinus (1485-1519), Moravian Humanist.
>
>
> "Valachia vulgo Latinis Vlaccia dicitur, provintia Pannoniae Cisdanubianae
> contermina in pontum usque descendens cum Damubo, veteres inferiorem
> Moesiam dixere, vide superius loco suo. Inde Vlacci Vlacciae populi, quos
> vulgus Valachos appellant".
>
> Summary: ROMANIANS (VLACHS) = ROMANS.
>
>
> Johann Boemus (1520), German Humanist.
>
>
> "Sed ea Thraciae pars quae Gethica olim dicebat, vbi Darius Hidaspis
> filius pene perijt, hodie Valachia appellatur, a Flaccis quiritum gente,
> Rhomani enim Gethis superatis et deletis Flacci cuiusdam ductu eo Coloniam
> miserunt, vnde prumum Flaccia, dein corrupta voce Vallacia dicta".
>
>
> Summary: ROMANIANS (VLACHS) = ROMANS.
>
>
> Sebastian Franck (1499-1543), German Humanist.
>
>
> "In didem landt (Walachia) haben ettwan das volck Gethe gewonet, die gross
> krieg gebraucht haben, zu letst mit den Rhomischen waffen ernider
> gerruckt, abgetilckt vnd mit yhrem volck besetzt, vnder dem Rhomischen
> hauptmann Flacco, von dem sy Flaccia nachmals vnlang Walachia gnant worden
> ist, das diss volcks spraach noch heut her meysttheyl Rhomisch ist, doch
> also corrumpiert, daz sy einem Rhomer kaum verstendtlich seind"
>
>
> Summary: ROMANIANS (VLACHS) = ROMANS.
>
>
> Georg Rithaymer (1563), Austrian Humanist.
>
>
> "Valachi Italicum genus hominum in colonias huc missum, plane in mores
> Getarum abierunt, ita nihil antiquae originis suae retinent, praeter
> linguam quam barbare et corrupte conant".
>
>
> Summary: ROMANIANS (VLACHS) = ROMANS.
>
>
> Nicolaus Olahus (1493-1568), Romanian (Vlach) Humanist.
>
>
> "Lingua, ritu, religione eadem Moldavi utuntur, qua Transalpini; vestitu
> aliqua saltem ex parte differunt...Sermo eorum et aliorum Valachorum fuit
> olim Romanus, vt qui sint coloniae Romanorum: nostra tempestate, maxime ab
> eo differt; praeterquam quod multa eorum vocabula, latinis sint
> intelligibilia...Valachi, Romanorum coloniae esse traduntur. Eius rei
> argumentum est, quod multa habeant communia cum idiomate Romano, cuius
> populi pleraque numismata, eo laci reperiuntur; haud dubie, magna
> vetustatis imperiique Romani istic indicia".
>
>
> Summary: ROMANIANS (VLACHS) = ROMANS.
>
>
> Theodor Bibliander (1548),Swiss Humanist.
>
>
> "Post irruptiones Gothorum et Germanicarum gentium et Sclavinorum, atque
> lacerationem et ruinam, imperij, sermo provincialis degeneravit longius a
> sua origine, ut in provincia Daciae Vualachorum lingua, Vlasky enim Italum
> aut Walhen sonat Slavis. Idem accidit in Hispanijs, in Gallia, denique in
> ipsa Italia, in Latio, in urbe domina gentium et sede Romanae eloquentiae"
>
>
> Summary: ROMANIANS (VLACHS) = ROMANS.
>
>
> Iacob Heraclid, Despot-Voda, Prince of Moldovia.
>
>
> "Con voi valenti homeni et gente bellicosa discesi dali valorosi Romani,
> quali hano fatto trmer il mondo... Et a questo se faremo cognoscer a tutto
> il mondo li veri Romani et discesi da queli et il nome nostro sara
> immortale et conergeremo l'imagine di nostri padri".
>
>
> Summary: ROMANIANS (VLACHS) = ROMANS.
>
>
> Stanislaw Orzechowski (1513-1566), Polish Humanist.
>
>
> "Hi (sc. Daci) erant ex Italis Romanisque proceati, qui Duce Lucio Valerio
> Flacco cum Daciam occupavissent, in hisque Regionibus uxores duxissent, ac
> consenuissent, hoc Dacos reliquerunt, qui eorum lingua Romini a Romanis,
> nostra Walachi, ab Italis appellantur. Wloszy enim Polonis idem est, quod
> Itali Latinis".
>
>
> Summary: ROMANIANS (VLACHS) = ROMANS.
>
>
> Martin Opitz (1597-1639), The father of modern German literature.
>
>
> "Doch ewre (der Romer) Sprache bleibt noch hier auff diesen Tag,
> Darob man dich gewiss gar billich wundern mag.
> Italien hat selbst nicht viel von seinem alten
> Ingleichen Spanien vnd Gallia behalten:
> Wie wenig diese nun den Romern ehnlich sein,
> So nahe sind verwandt Walachisch und Latein"
>
> "Es steckt manchs edles Blut in kleinen Bawrenhutten,
> Das noch den alten brauch vnd der Vorfahren sitten
> Nicht gantzlich avgelegt. Wie dann jhr Tantz anzeigt,
> In dem so wunderbar gebuckt wird und geneigt,
> Gesprungen in die hoh, auff art der Capreolen,
> Die meine Deutschen sonst auss Franckrich mussen holen,
> Bald wird ein Kreiss gemacht, bald wiederumb zutrant,
> Bald gehn die Menscher recht, bald auff der lincken hand,
> Die Menscher, die noch jtzt fast Romisch muster tragen,
> Zwar schlecht, doch witzig sein, viel dencken, wenig sagen"
>
> Summary: ROMANIANS (VLACHS) = ROMANS.
>
> ETC, ETC...
>
> FOR MORE INFORMATION READ ADOLF ARMBRUSTER, "Romanitatea Romanilor"
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