I prefer the longy one.

Ines Weber > wrote in article
>...
> RT765 wrote:
> > 
> > This must be a fancy way to say that you and your ancestors were HUNS.
> > Remember, you are a Barbarian by blood.
> 
> No, no my friend,  this is a fancy way of saying that YOUR ANCESTORS
> were the dirty, illiterate, ignorant, still living in trees servants of
> these "barbarians"".

Dear Ines,
Thank you so much for taking up for us.  I also believe that this 'thing'
is far below your intelligence, and not worth your time.
Best regards, Istvan

This must be a fancy way to say that you and your ancestors were HUNS.
Remember, you are a Barbarian by blood.

Just read it.

The Ruman is a ROMAN.
Who is the Magyar? The HUN.
Or since you may be an Austrian, Who is the Germ?
A barbarian in civilized cloths?

THE 11th ANNUAL TOLEDO TALALKOZO

Date:  April 25, 26 & 27, 1997

Instructors:  Sara Ferenc & Varga Zsuzsanna "Direct from Transylvania"

Location:  St. Stephen's Church (school gym)
2018 Consaul Street, Toledo, Ohio

Dance Cycle:  Gyimes & Moldva

Live Music:  "Eletfa" (from New York) 

Registration Fee:  $45.00 (full fee paid by April 16th, 1997)  
                        $55.00 (fee paid after April 16th, 1997)

> =============================================================

SCHEDULE

          Friday, April 25th          7:00pm - 11:00pm          Tanchaz
and Introduction

 Saturday, April 26th      9:00am - 12:00noon        Gyimesi Workshop
                                  1:30pm - 3:30pm            Moldvai
Workshop
                                    4:00pm - 6:00pm            Gyimesi
Workshop
                                 7:30pm - ? ? ? ?            
Concert/Tanchaz

Sunday, April 27th       10:00am - 1:00pm            Review

> =============================================================

Any questions or for additional information please contact:
KINDRA VARGO
25902 Bradner Road 
Genoa, Ohio  43430
U.S.A.
(419)-837-6668
e-mail address:  

Richard Corson wrote:
> 
> I am looking for a US book dealer who would be likely to have the
> English language translation of the book,  Eclipse of the Crescent Moon,
> by Geza Gardonyi.  I believe an English language translation was
> published in Hungary as recently as the 1990's.
> 
> A grandmother wants to begin reading it to her English speaking
> grandchildren !
> 
> Any pointers to a source will be greatly appreciated

Corvin-Puski in New York City usually carries the book and may have
it in their inventory or can get it for you within two weeks.

Cheers

Peter Aradi

) writes:
> From the OMRI News:
>>ROMANIAN PRIME MINISTER STEPS BACK FROM HUNGARIAN UNIVERSITY PROMISE.
>>Victor Ciorbea, after promising shortly before his visit to Budapest
>>earlier this month to reopen the Hungarian-language Bolyai University in
>>Cluj, now says the final say will depend on the existing Babes-Bolyai
>>University's faculty senate, because universities enjoy autonomy, Radio
>>Bucharest reported on 17 March. Ciorbea and President Emil
>>Constantinescu had earlier clarified that the Hungarian university,
>>closed in 1958, would re-open as a Hungarian section within the unified
>>Babes-Bolyai university (see OMRI Daily Digest, 14 March 1997).
>>Ciorbea's recent statement was made at a meeting with the university's
>>two ethnic Romanian deputy rectors, who oppose the move and have
>>threatened to resign in protest.
> 
> So there we are again.  If it's going to depend on some Romanian
> nationalists jelously guarding their turf, there won't be any re-opening
> of the Hungarian university.  This is in effect a de facto admission by
> the Romanians that they like the past anti-Hungarian actions and don't
> I want to rectify them.  I guess I let my optimism carry too far this
> time.  I should have listened to those who cautioned me about this. 
> Joe Pannon

Perhaps universities should not be autonomous. Perhaps university affairs
should be driven by political leaders. There is a considerable population
of Rom in Hungary -- is there a Romani University? Why not? Surely it
wouldn't be because of some Hungarian nationalists jealously guarding
their turf. Perhaps Csurka could be convinced -- not.

 wrote:

>On 12 Mar 1997 12:55:44 GMT, LZKISS > wrote:
>>
>>A Leben und Leben lassen hagyomanyosan is meg ma is azt jelenti: fejd az
>>adofizetoket az allamon keresztul jo liberal, es hagyd hogy masok is
>>fejjek. Pfuj.
>
>Bizony!  Egyre tobbet hallani az UN azon igyekezeterol is, hogy
>valamifele, az egesz vilagra kiterjedo jovedelemadot akar szedni,
>akarcsak az amerikai szovetsegi kormany az USA allamainak polgaraitol,
>aminek egy jo reszet aztan ujra elosztja a tagallamok kozott.
>Meg csak ez hianyzik nekunk!
>
>Pannon J. 
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>removing the "antiSPAM." part from it.  I have altered the address
>in the hope of defeating address grabbing SPAM software.  Thanks, JP


Te, J.! (Kedves Danubius),
Mit is akartok itt mondani?  <<Le'ben und le'ben hagyni >>
egy tragikus szojatek volt.. Arra utalt, hogy minket akkor
benn hagytak a le'ben! Ugy mint nemregen benn hagytak a
bosnyakokat. A zaftban.

Hogy ki, mi, mifele adokat szed vagy szeretne szedni, az mas
lapra tartozik. Uff! - monda Winnetou. Mond meg Kissnek is.

Uzeneted vegen van egy "reminder". Nem ismerem a mesejet.
Mukodott? Mukodik?
Udv: Dominus v.

Istvan Lippai wrote:
> 
> Peter Aradi > wrote in article
> >...
> > Istvan Lippai wrote:
> > >
> > > Mar miota kinlodunk a het (biztos hogy het?) honfoglalo torzs vezer
> > > neveivel.  Nincs senki aki tudja vagy legalabb olyan aki  megmondja,
> hogy  nem lehet biztossan tudni?
> *******************************
> Magyarul; te se tudod.  Istvan
> *******************************
> 
Arpad fejedelem vezette a fohadat Verecken keresztul.
Kende ( a regi fovezer es teteny (vagy Tohotom) atkelt a Tiszan.
Huba es Lel nepe vac fele ment.
Kal es Boton torzsei Maros volgye mentek.
Ond pedig Csongrad fele vezette torzset.
Arpad mellett volt Kuszan es nefelessuk el hogy Arpad atyja Almos volt.
A het torzsfo neveit mi a mithologianak tartjuk amire nics tortenelmi,
lasd irott, bizonyitas.
De hogy tu a torzseket, azok a kovetkezok voltak:
Nyek, Megyer, Jeno, Tarjan, Kurtgyarmat, Ker es Keszi. (Ezt azert tudjuk
mert Konstantin csaszar irattarjaban vanb ra irott bizonyitas.)

Udvozolettel

Peter Aradi

On Sun, 23 Mar 1997 11:25:41 GMT,  (Denes BOGSANYI)
scribbled:

>Most dolgozom fel Illes Elemer "National Minorities in Romania" cimu
>konyvet. Amint kesz, megjelenik az internetten. Nagyon erdekes komoly
>szakkonyv, sok adattal es annak targyilagos kiertekelesevel. A masodik
>vilag haboru utanni nepszamlalas szerint erdely nepenek 35%-a volt
>ortodox, 25%-a gorog katolikus, 17%-a romai katolikus, 12.5%-a
>reformatus, 5%-a luteranus, 1%-a unitarianus es 3.5%-a zsido vallasu.
>On Wed, 19 Mar 1997 22:50:22 GMT,  (Horvath) wrote:
>
>>On 19 Mar 1997 01:55:32 GMT,  (aheringer)
>>scribbled:
>>
>>>Gustav, I usually enjoy very much your history lessons, but I alway heard 
>>>referred to as magyar vallas the Calvinist, i.w. reformatus.  I was also 
>>>under the impressions that the Hungarians of Transylvania were mainly 
>>>protestants, namely unitarius and szombatos.  
>>
>>Most of the Magyars in Transylvania are Roman Catholic, however there
>>is a sizable percentage of Reformatus, (Calvanists.)
>>

>133 Osburn Drive
>MACGREGOR 2615
>Australia
>phone and fax:61 6 2543636


Thanks for the correction.   Koszonom



				Horvath


I didn't come here for a Polka lesson, so stop dancing around!

Need volunteer Hungarian/English interpreter for April 8 & 9 (all day)
and April
10 (a.m. only)  in Marceline, Missouri (northern Mo.)  for  2 visiting
"Kalocsai" 
Hungarians who will be attending an informal business meeting and doing 
cultural/touristic visits.  

Your help is needed and will be much appreciated.   Call Peter Korzenik, 
1-800-243-4372,   ext  6361.  (8 a.m to 4:15 p.m. M-F  E.S.T.)

[International Executive Service Corps...a Connecticut U.S.A. based
non-profit 
organization providing business assistance to small private newly
emerging 
Hungarian businesses]

On 18 Mar 1997 22:57:17 -0800,  wrote:

>So there we are again.  If it's going to depend on some Romanian
>nationalists jelously guarding their turf, there won't be any re-opening
>of the Hungarian university.  This is in effect a de facto admission by
>the Romanians that they like the past anti-Hungarian actions and don't
>I want to rectify them.  I guess I let my optimism carry too far this
>time.  I should have listened to those who cautioned me about this. 

Hi Joe:

You're calling the glass half empty.  You should look at what has
happened under Romania's democratic government compared to the
communist baseline, not compared to perfection.  And, I'm sure that
you'll agree, that things are far better now than they were half a
year ago.  So long as the situations continues to imporve, the
government is good, and deserves our support.

Also, for the record, many of us haven't received our familiies'
seized property, nor compensation.  That doesn't constitue "a de facto
admission by the Romanians that they like the past" anti-capitalist
actions.

Alexander

I have edited my return address in order to avoid the
gross excess in junk e-mail infesting the net. 
To e-mail me, just remove the word spamfree
from my address.

> From: Nygren >
> To: 
> Subject: New Goals.
> Date: Friday, March 14, 1997 3:49 PM
> 
> hello,
> 
> I´ve now updates the Barcelona - Athletico Madrid goals.
> Some English goals will follow tomorrow.
> 
> /Gustav

Hi : Nygren is working his goals page very seriously. He updates it several
times per week making a serious effort to bring great services to soccer
fans throught the Internet. You can see his Videos page at :

http://www.isfa.com/server/videos/nygren/

And rememeber to check the ISFAnet Calendar for the next Live Game in the
IRC at :

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and for ISFANet's Homepage for firther info :

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Cheers !

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***************************
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Peter wrote:
> 
> The point of my post was that Soviets never faced any significant
> resistance in Eastern Europe. (Examples of significant resistance:
> Civil War in Russia - est. 20-25 mln. dead, Finland,
> Bandera movement in Ukraine, Lithvinian "Forest Brothers", Afganistan,
> Chechnya).
> Nothing _remotely_ close happened in E.Europe. Don't give me Hungary'56
> and
> Prague'68 - these were minor incidents. Most of the E. Europe
> collaborated
> with Soviets, more or less, just like they collaborated with nazies
> 

This is not correct with respect to Poland at least.
There was substantial resistance from Armia Krajowa
up to the end of 40th. If you interested to "meassure"
the strength of resistance it would be somewhere
between Ukraine, Lithuania and Afganistan according to
your scale.

The same apply to collaboration with nazies. There were
no political forces, parties or officials who collaborated
with nazies in Poland.

Denes BOGSANYI > wrote 
> En is a kiralysag mellett vagyok. 

Ebbe csak ugy vagyok hajlando bele menni, ha en leszek a kiraly es a
kiskutyaim hercegek lehetnek.  Halalom utan a felesegem lessz a kiralyno,
es ha a Lippai csaladnak nem marad utodja akkor a szomszedom, aki egy
mexikoi szarmazasu nagyon rendes es becsuletes postas, veszi at az uralmat.

Ofelsege: Pista Kiraly

u.i.  Amerikaban a postasok olyan jol keresnek, hogy nem tudom ra 'tudjuk'
(Itt mar magamrol beszelek kiralyi tobbsegben) e venni a szomszedomat a
kiralyi pozicio elvalalasara.

On 21 Mar 1997 04:16:38 GMT,  (Patricia Hefner)
scribbled:

>Does anybody know of any history books of the Magyar people written in 
>English? If you do, I'd like to know! Thanks! ---Patricia Hefner
>


Try "A History of Hungary"  by Peter Sugar



				Horvath


I didn't come here for a Polka lesson, so stop dancing around!

Visit the Dominican Republic
http://www.ziplink.net/~doney

RT765 wrote:
> 
> Marina, come down baby.
> Be proud of your ancestors.


To: RT765

Be proud of your ancestors too!! Hold your head up,
peel your banana properly and give a big smile for the visiting 
tourists.- They paid for the admission.

         Mark

I've just learned from some close relatives in Hungary that two of them
were hit on the same day with a scam all too familiar to Americans.
Two pleasant young men showed up with a package addressed to either of
my relatives (in both cases old widows) telling them that the package 
contains some 50,000 Ft they won at some charity drawing.  To claim the
winning however, they had to pay some 10,000 Ft for the personal
delivery.  Poor old women, trusting and unfamiliar with such scams, gave
in the pressure and paid the requested delivery fee. By the time they
opened the package, the young men were gone.  In both cases the packages
contained a brick and several patatos.

Fortunately, one of the woman was able to provide some partial license
plate numbers of the scammers' car and based on that, the police caught
the guys pretty quick and the lost money was recovered.

This is one aspect of market oriented system that Hungary does not need
to adapt. 

Joe Pannon
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REMINDER: Please correct my e-mail address in any personal reply by
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RT765 wrote:
> 
> Remeber, You are a HUN/


Good stuff! You are trying to communicate!

You shall be rewarded. After consulting with
the Vet, it was decided that a supply of 
flea powder would be an appropriate and 
timely token of appreciation for the 
demonstrated super-simian efforts 
of recent days.

As a matter of fact, the tractor-trailer
bringing relief and comfort must be just
around the corner from you - Right behind 
the Chiquita truck!!

                 Mark

Kedves Jozsi,  
Ha Te sem banod akkor a mi "elder statesman"-unk Lippai Pista es masok csakugya
n  
helyes tanacsat megfogadva es a sajat velemenyemet kovetve, miszerint rendkivul
 
hulyen jon ki ha ket magyar angolul vitatkozik, atvaltok magyarra.
A Te eddigi munkadat ezen a forumon nagyra ertekelem. Nem kivanok sem Veled sem
 
egyebb jo magyarokkal "ononfia vagta" sebeket letrehozni. Onmagam (mar) nem 
leven  katolikus probalom ezt a kerdest a Tiednel kulonbozo szempontbol 
megkozeliteni. Ennyi az egesz. 
En valoban kritikus allaspontra helyezkedem a romai egyhazzal es a annak 
magyarorszagi szerepet illetoen, azonban nem hiszem hogy hangvetelem gyalazo 
hangnemet utne meg. Ennek az is okozoja hogy, csaladom nagyresze tovabbra is 
igen buzgon ezt az egyhazat tamogatja.
En, erdelyi oseim tordai nyilatkozatanak ertelmeben a TELJES vallasszabadsag 
hive vagyok. Ez alatt azt ertem hogy ammeddig elismerem a Te jogodat a katoliku
s 
modihoz nem latom be miert kellene nekem es szamtalan mas honfitarsunknak 
fogadalmat tenni Romahoz amikor az nem tartja be a nekunk igerteket. (Az lasd a
z 
"Issuer"  vonatkozast az elobbiekben.) Erre a legjobb valaszt azt hiszem minden
 
katolikus pap megadja Neked igy valahogy: O eloszor katolikus es csak azutan 
magyar.Velem mindenesetre megtortent. Nos, vannak sokan akik mindennek elott 
magyarok es nem katolikusok egyaltalan. Mit mond ez Neked? (Kerlek, ne gyanusit
s 
ismet "magyarkodassal" ill. neopaganisztikus vallasok kovetesevel ill. 
propagalasaval mert azt soha sem tettem es nem vagyok egyikben sem erdekelve.) 
>>Uniting,
Ne haragudj, akar mennyire nem akarok belemenni vallasi kerdesekbe; de 
ironikusnak talalom hogy egy olyan eszmevel probalni az egyesitest ami onmaga i
s 
a megosztottsagra alapul.  Eppen ezert vetettem fel egy olyan (magyar) szimbolu
m 
hasznalatat amelyben minden magyar egyet ert(het). Gondolom a Turul ellen Neked
 
sincs kifogasod ?

>>Not even the Eastern Church was split yet from Rome totally.
>>Do you have some problems with comprehension?
Neha van. Kulonosen ilyen esetekben. Van e olyan, hogy egy no csak egy kicsit 
terhes ?
>>only one Christian Church!
>Was this before or after that the pope and the patriarch of Contantinople 
>excommunicated each other ? (In 879 AD)
>Where would your evidence put the Bulgarian Church that separeted from Rome 
>*AND* Constaninople.  (in 917 AD.)  etc. etc.
>>If you read my comment with more attention, 
Ha Te olvassol tobb figyelemmel akkor lathatod, hogy en IS mellekesnek iteltem 
ezt a kerdest, (>Btw. this part is not relevant at all,) es nem probaltam 
mellekvaganyra sikoltatni. Amit mondani akartam es (azt hiszem bebizonyitottam)
 
hogy nem csak egy egyhaz volt abban az idoben. Ha ez nem lenne eleg akkor 
mehetek tovabb, ugyanis ez egy kedvenc teruletem a vallas tortenetben. Igy 
tehat: >please do not mix religion into it more than needed; 
>>This is ridiculous!  Do you really think that Hungary is going to crown
>>ANYBODY in the foreseable future ?
Remelem nem csak a kozeljovoben nem, hanem egyaltalan nem. Van eleg verszivo 
abban az orszagban kiraly nelkul is ! Sosem lehet azonban tudni, -az teny hogy 
a 
nemet-romaiak (?!!!) maradvanyai, az Ottoek nagyon olalkodnak. (A kerdesem 
azonban nem ez volt.) 
 >The closest to this "Magyar Religion" I have ever heard was rather called 
>" A Magyar Vallas". This expression was used (of course) for the Catholic cree
d  
>in Transylvania, where generally the Magyars were the practitioners of it ; 
>while the Rumanians were Orthodox and the Saxons Lutheranian or other Reformed
. 
>>Your power of perception is underwhelming.  Where in the heck did you
>>get the idea that I was referring to the religion of Transylvanians?
Nem tettem azt, ezt irtam: "AMIROL EN, (EN) VALAHA IS HALLOTTAM"
>>I was referring to the proponents in "Magyar Hit" who believe in salvation 
>>through the revived version of pre-Christian Hungarian shamanistic religion.
A "saman" religion nem tipikusan magyar hit. Ha ezt allitod akkor ezzel az en 
malmomra hajtod a vizet, hiszen ebben a vallasban is Turani (kozepazsiai 
eredetunk es az ottani nepekkel valo rokonsagunk nyer bizonyitekot.) A samani 
vallas kovetoi nem hiszem hogy akarmilyen fele udvozulesre tartottak volna 
igenyt. Jobban karakterizalhato az O elkepzelesuk a Lehelnek tulajdonitott 
mondassal miszerint azert vagta jol kupan kurtjevel a bizanci egyhaz 
kepviselojet hogy az a szolgaja legyen a masvilagon. Ezek a turani nepek a 
velunk (igen) tavoli rokonsagban levo eszkimokhoz hasonloan nem voltak azonban 
romai ertelemben vett poganyok. Egy Isten hiten voltak es nem voltak 
balvanyimadok sem.  (Ez ugyan tenyleg egy mellekes szal de azert idefuzom:
Amig a magyar nyelvu biblia forditasok szerint Jezus "poganyokrol" szol  (, ez 
eredetileg pagan-t azaz  visszmaradott parasztot jelent)  az angol nyelvu "King
 
James" ugyanott "gentile"-okat azaz nem zsidokat emlit. Amig abban az idoben es
 
helyen a nem zsidok csakugyan "pogany"-ok azaz nem az EGYEDULI TEREMTO URISTEN 
imadoi voltak, ( ugy godolom)  hogy eme reszek ujraolvasasa  a mai 
keresztenyeket egy kicsit kenyes helyzetbe hozza.)
Remelem nem leszek ezert ("meg nem erdemelten") lezsidozva !
>>They typically hold the same dim view of St. Stephen's role in Hungarian 
history as you do.
Nem ismerem az ezen a listan nem is olyan regen errol az Istvan kiraly fele 
kerdesrol kituno osszefoglalast iro urat, de kivancsi lennek mi lenne az o 
velemenye errol az altalanositasrol.
>Unfortunately today we can not say this anymore because the Church of Rome has
 
>outlawed  the Hungarian there as a ceremonial language. This is how our 
>Csango/Tsango brothers and sisters have to listen to church services where 
their 
>Rumanian speaking, appointed "father" teaches them this: "The Hungarian is not
 
>only the language of the devil, but also a "fascist" language and whoever uses
 
>it will go to hell."
>>I know all about this, but as I said, I was not referring to that.
De en megtettem ezt es ha kell megteszem minden nap szazszor, mert valakinek me
g 
kell tenni.
Kapasbol tudnak irni tiz masik hasonlo, igen durva esetet is de nem hiszem hogy
 
ez lenne a legjobb modja a beke jobb nyujtasnak amire torekszem.
>>I had no intention to carry on a long drawn out argument with you anyway.
Igy gondolom en is. Mint irtam: "try not to argue for the arguments sake."
Annak remenyeben, hogy kommunistanak sem leszek gyanusitva meg kerlek hogy az 
Engels-i
(nem minden "kommunista" volt hulye !) elmelet ertelmeben probaljunk 
egyuttmukodni.
A tezisbol es az antitezisbol hozzunk letre egy szintezist; -megnyomoritott 
hazank erdekeben.
>>I just could not let the kind anti-Stephen and anti-Catholic drivel you 
expressed go on without >>a comment.
Ez teljes jogodban all, sot kivanatos is. Sehol sem emlitettem, hogy 
tevedhetetlen vagyok.
De azt hiszem ezt meg lehet tenni jozan ervelessel es targyszeru bizonyitekokka
l 
szemelyeskedes sot, jelzok hasznalata nelkul is.
>>Azt hiszem az ilyen fajta tortenelmi "ujraertekeles" tobbet art, mint hasznal
, 
mivel viszalyt >>szit ott, ahol osszefogasra van szukseg."
Nem hiszem, hogy tortenelmunk folyaman akarmilyen mas tenyezo tobb viszalyt 
keltett volna koreinkben mint a minket MINDIG cserbenhagyo Nyugat es annak 
trojai falova, a romai egyhaz.
Azt hiszem ez a viszalykodas egykori csaladi-oroklodesi ugyeinkbe valo 
beavatkozassal kezdodott ami Koppany vezer elteben valo  negyfele vagasaval 
folytatodott es nem tudni hogy mikor fog befejezodni.
A kozottunk levo ellentet oka azt hiszem nem mas, mint hogy en Koppanyt es 
tarsait jobb magyarnak tartom mint az ellenunk nem egeszen keresztenyi modon 
fellepo Istvant.
Pax Vobiscum, 
Gusztav

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In the beginning of a change, the patriot  is a scarce man and brave, hated and
 
scorned. 
When his cause succeeds  however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing
 
to be a patriot."  Mark Twain
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Egy friss osztrák előterjesztésben olvastam történeti visszatekintés címszó
alatt azt, hogy Burgenlandot a trianoni békeszerződésben azért csatolták
Ausztriához, mert

- az 1918 előtti (!) magyar kormány nacionalista indíttatású intézkedései
(magyarosítási politika, a területnek az ország (Magyarország) belseje felé
irányuló infrastrukturális fejlesztése nem járt sikerrel

- Burgenland lakóinak  a nagy része Ausztriához való csatlakozásra
törekedett.

Azt is írja a továbbiakban ez a tanulmány, hogy a tartomány kulturális
központjai (pl. Sopron, Szombathely) mégis a magyar területen maradtak.

Szó sem esik azonban arról, hogy Sopron és a környező nyolc község szintén
Ausztriához került volna a békediktátum alapján, ha bátor honfitársaink
erélyes fellépése folytán onnan ki nem zavarják a már betelepült osztrák
adminisztrációt, az ágfalvi csatában hősiesen ki nem állnak a magyar érdek
mellett, és az ezt követő népszavazás során nem 72:28 arányban a
Magyarországon maradás mellett dönt a nép.
(Sopron: civitas fidelissima = a leghűségesebb magyar város).

Ki tud válaszolni a következő kérdéseimre:

Alkalmasak-e az ilyen "csúsztatások" arra, hogy egy néppel szemben
előítéleteket tápláljanak?

Valóban nacionalista-e az a kormány, amelyik saját országa
infrastruktúráját fejleszti?

A csallóközieket, a vajdaságiakat, az erdélyieket, stb. is azért csatolták
oda, ahova kerültek, mert ez volt a nép kívánsága?

Trianon tényleg a népakaratot juttatta érvényre?