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1 HUNGARIAN PROGRAMS? (mind)  3 sor     (cikkei)
2 Re: Slovakia & Sweden (mind)  47 sor     (cikkei)
3 Re: Slovakia & Sweden (mind)  27 sor     (cikkei)
4 Re: Meaning of "Germany" (mind)  43 sor     (cikkei)
5 Hungarian wine tasting in San Francisco Bay Area (mind)  38 sor     (cikkei)
6 Re: Slovakia & Sweden (mind)  20 sor     (cikkei)

+ - HUNGARIAN PROGRAMS? (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

Can anyone tell me if  it  is possible to receive Hungarian programs 
via Satellite TV in Miami Florida? Thank you. 
email address: 
+ - Re: Slovakia & Sweden (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

Den 7 Dec 1995 11:00:26 GMT skrev  (Jarmo Ryyti) :

=>Lennart Regebro ) wrote:
=>: In article >,  
=>:says...
=>(cut)
=>: Around 0.5 percent then. We wouldn't want 10% finnish speaking schools 
=>: then, right? :)
=>
=>: That would however mean that there are a couple of thousand kids going to 
=>: school, so unless they are spread out over a huge area (I don't think so) 
=>: they should be able to have finnish speaking schools.
=>
=>: Anybody knows if there are any Finnish speaking schools?
=>
=>There are ten (10) Finnish speaking schools in Sweden. So called
=>free schools (friskolor) established *by the Finns of Sweden 
=>themselves.* There are c. 700 pupils in those schools.
                            ~~~~~~~~~~
I don't believe that at all. Skolverket (the State School Authority) official
figures (Tabell 1.8C Elever med undervisning i hemsprĺk och svenska som
andrasprĺk, available as a zipped Excel-file from
http://www.skolverket.se/skolnet/skolverk/nus/sos951.html) for the number of
pupils that attend schools where they are taught in their mother tongue, and
where Swedish is the second (or "first foreign") language lists 9,954 pupils
in foreign-language schools or classes (out of which about 300 didn't take
Swedish at all). The statistics don't list languages, but since Finnish is by
far the biggest foreign language among immigrants in Sweden, it would be safe
to assume that at least half of those students are being taught in
Finnish.....

According to the rules you are entitled to attend foreign language
schools/classes if one or more of the child's parents had a foreign language
as his/her mother tongue and used that language in such a way that it is
their "daily language". The child must also have basic knowledge about the
language in question. The rules about the language being the "daily language"
do not apply if the child is Sami, Tornedal Finn, Gypsy, or adopted. (Meaning
that the children of Tornedal Finns always have the right to be taught in
Finnish.....).

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+ - Re: Slovakia & Sweden (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

 (Erik Robertson) wrote:
> In article >, 
>  says...
> >them maybe don't even know that they are of Finnish descent. Then please 
> tell
> >the British government that they must make French an official language 
> in
> >Britain because of the Norman charter group that arrived in AD1066. And
> You're forgetting the ancestral language of many of those Normans, which 
> was... 
> 
> :-))

Funny point.. say. But what comes to the English language today
and English language during the Saxon time. I wouldn't say
that they didn't make French an official language, in a way...

Jorma Kyppo
Laukaa


And back to original thema: certainly there are not one million
Finnish speaking in Sweden today, though as many might have some
Finnish roots. But for sure there are 300 000 to half a million
and at least half of these people need to have education by their
own language. I don't understand what's problem with this if not
a Swedish chauvinism.
+ - Re: Meaning of "Germany" (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

Alex Zwarg ) wrote:
:  hat am 27.11.95
: mit dem Thema "Re: Meaning of "Germany"" das Chaos beschworen...

: DP >....When I
: DP >was learning German (not very profoundly, I must confess) I noticed that
: DP >there existed an adjective `teutlich' meaning comprehensible,
: DP >understandable, ...

: p> Terribly sorry, the correct spelling is `deutlich'. Which seems to make my
: p> point still clearer.

: The German's call themselves "Deutsche". This comes from the name of an  
: old celtic tribe named Teutones. For the romans we were Germans.

: I think the original meaning of "German" is skin or naked body, because  
: when Caesar first recovered the Germans he wrote, that they were nearly  
: undressed or just with some animal skins. And the nearest latin word for  
: german means skin...

: Fortunately we have clothes now. It's very cold outside at this moment.
: Brrr....:-)

: Only for those who are interested in...

: CU...


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The word 'german' or the roman 'Germania' cames from the old german word
'ger' wich means a kind of a spear and 'man' is still used in the same way
in English or as 'Mann' in German. Therefor it means 'spearman'. 

Peter Seibert
+ - Hungarian wine tasting in San Francisco Bay Area (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

*************************************************************************
   T A S T E    T O K A J   - -   T H E   W I N E   O F   K I N G S

 Tokaji Aszu  *  Forditas  *   Furmint  *  Harslevelu  *  Muscat Lunel
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The Board of Directors of Westwind International Folk Ensemble invites 
you to celebrate the holiday season with a gala wine tasting featuring 
the wines of Tokaj, Hungary.


                       Berkeley City Club
                        2315 Durant Ave.
                          Berkeley, CA
                   Saturday, December 16, 1995
                              4-7 pm

Wine discussion at 5 pm featuring George Boros of Budapest, Hungary

For centuries prior to World War II, the Tokaj region produced "the wine 
of kings--the king of wines," the favorite of Louis XIV, Peter the Great, 
Beethoven, Rossini, Schubert and Goethe. Now that the Iron Curtain has 
fallen, the Imperial Hungarian vineyards have resumed the traditional 
method of producing this legendary wine.

"As Hungarians again taste freedom, we taste wines made in the old way."
- The Wine Spectator, September 15

Join us amid the strains of Hungarian music to "experience the rebirth of 
one of the world's great dessert wines: Tokaj." (Berry's of London) Take 
this rare opportunity to taste these wines as a holiday gift to others 
and to yourself.

Tickets are $25 in advance, $28 at the door. Due to limited capacity, 
reservations are advised.

Call City Arts Box Office at (510) 798-1300
For further information, call (510) 527-2491
+ - Re: Slovakia & Sweden (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

In article >, 
 says...

[snip]

>them maybe don't even know that they are of Finnish descent. Then please 
tell
>the British government that they must make French an official language 
in
>Britain because of the Norman charter group that arrived in AD1066. And


You're forgetting the ancestral language of many of those Normans, which 
was... 

:-))


Erik Robertson


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